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My wife cheated on me

Thursday, September 1, 2016 7:49 PM by Jon Rating: +17|-14

My wife and her friends each year for about 10 years head down to Florida for a girls only vacation.  I'm a pretty secure guy but there are some indicators that make me wonder what really happens down there.  Some times I'll call, no answer, so I text, no reply til the next morning. The girls all talk about dancing and how cheap it is to party down in the keys. Are they getting guys to buy drinks?  My wife slipped and mentioned salsa dancing. She loved to dance and I'm sure guys love to watch her. She's a very attractive and sexy woman. She takes pride and a lot of time to primp herself before heading out. I also over heard them talking about being invited up to some guys apartment for an after party. That's the night she was not responding.  I know her well and when she drinks she lets her guard down and becomes very flirty. Do I think she would cheat? No.  But I think she is putting herself in a position for something to happen.  I'd bet that 90% of cheaters thought it would never happen to them, that they were drinking, a guy showed them the right amount of attention and next thing they were sweating up the sheets. There are some things that just don't sit right in my stomach.  I listen and I hear them when they talk about their trip. Once I dropped them off at the airport and returned to pick them up. Upon loading them up and all the girls talking about the trip suddenly there was a very long awkward silence.  I think they were talking about something that happened and they realized I was listening.  I talked to my wife and she says that she would never cheat, she wouldn't put herself in such a position...but she did, many times.  I don't want her to accept a drink offer. No guy really cares that a woman has something to drink, he buys a drink and it comes with expectations of at the very least a conversation. Married women/men do not need to engage in conversations in clubs where booze is flowing. There is always an alterior motive.  I don't care that she goes out with her girlfriends but I do care that she may be keeping the company of another man. If she wants male company she should invite me. I told her this and she just said I was being silly. I think almost any woman in the right setting, with the right amount of booze and a good looking guy who has the gift of gab will succumb to his advances, especially in a very exotic tropical vacation spot. Please people help me out. Am I completely off base or did I hit he nail on the head?  Women, men help me understand. Especially you women. I believe most men will side with me.  

Thank you for voting.

Comments

Friday, September 2, 2016 6:48 AM
COguest

I don't think you're far off buddy.  If you don't trust your wife 100% or vice versa, then you need to do something about it.  I would chill out and let it lay until her next trip.  Save some cash aside somewhere, a little here a little there, and once you know the date she's going, hire a PI.  Let him tail her and if he comes back with info you don't like, well, the divorce will be simple.  

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 7:29 AM
Guest

Any woman who doesn't see a problem with having a guy but her drinks has cheating in her heart. It doesn't matter if she has cheated or not, because she will someday. You should just leave her. You won't be able to change her heart. 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 7:29 AM
Guest

Any woman who doesn't see a problem with having a guy but her drinks has cheating in her heart. It doesn't matter if she has cheated or not, because she will someday. You should just leave her. You won't be able to change her heart. 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:15 AM
Peggy

It has happened to me. I am married with 2 kids and my best girl friend and I went on a vacation together for 5 days in Florida. we wnet out a coupe of nights to clubs and men were talking to us  and buyingus drinks( and yes when a man buys a woman drinks  he expects something) well the first night we did it i was tipsy  and 2 men felt me up and toungue kissed me one of them had his hand in my panties.  the second  night that we did go out  we met 4 business men at the club and  they invited us back to there condo. well all 4r had sex with me the first one was very nice  soft and sweet talking me and somehow he got me in one of the bedrooms and after he siad lets have a drink  he got up to go get drinks  and one of the other guys came in  and  yes all 4 did it to me.  to this day my husband  does not know and I am ashamed.  And yes they all did my girl friend to  she is married.  the one guy was telling the others  see I told you married women are easiest women to get in bed.

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:19 AM
Guest

So hot peggy I have done a lot of married womern    yes  they are very easy to get in bed

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:25 AM
Guest

Married women are THE BEST.....

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:29 AM
Guest

Last Guest  how many married women have you fucked

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:30 AM
Guest

THat would be telling, woluldn';t it?

Ha ha

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:32 AM
Guest

I have fucked 5 married women  all bareback

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:32 AM
Guest

About the same.....grteat wasn't it?

 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:34 AM
Guest

Were they all great in bed?

 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:36 AM
Guest

yes they all were great in bed they will do anything

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:37 AM
Guest

I had one who couldn't wait to get her hands on my belt buckle and zipper

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:42 AM
Dottie

nice conversation guys.  i will tell you why us married women are easy to get in bed, because our husbands are wham bam thank oyu mam  and then go to sleep

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:43 AM
Guest

Hi Dottie..You are a smart lady..I agree with you generallyt. But some ladaies just love to screw.

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:48 AM
Guest

what a hot  room  Dorttie  you sound hot   how many have fucked you besides your husband    I would love to read your story

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:53 AM
Guest

Please tell us, Dottie...........

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:56 AM
Dottie

Since the first time I cheated about 7 men  I do have  2 men that live out of town  that are fuck buddys  when they are in town

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 8:57 AM
Guest

Details, Dottie...Details please. You spouind ;like a really fun girl.

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:01 AM
Dottie

What kind of details,  I have a hot pussy

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:09 AM
Guest

COme on Dottie...how did the first hook up happen, for instance.i

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:15 AM
Dottie

I was shopping and stopped to have lunch sitting outside The place was busy and a man was looking for a seat  and he asked if he could sit down. he was very nice  lots of complimenyts  bought me a couple of drinks and started flirting with me,  he had a hotel room a few blocks  he was here on business and I was very horny that day   I had not had sex in a week.   well i went to his room with him

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:20 AM
Guest

..and?????????????????

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:25 AM
Guest

Was it great? Did you feel guilty? Is he one of your regulars now?

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:26 AM
Dottie

are you stroking your cock reading this

 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:27 AM
Guest

Who wants to know?

ha ha....

 

love details Dottie...........

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:30 AM
Guest

How old are you Dottie.....just curious

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:35 AM
Dottie

I am 37 5"3 125 lbs   brown hair  brown eyes 34 C neatly trimmed

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:35 AM
Fuck you Peggy

Fuck you Peggy ass hole pussy bitch Peggy give me your husband's contacts ill Fuck you bitch you're a fucking rotten pussy

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:36 AM
Guest

Wow....double wow

.

You sound fantastic...no wonder the guys are after you.

And sexy too....!!!!!!

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:36 AM
Guest

Dottie...do you chat anywhere....ICQ, for instance?

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:46 AM
Guest

Dottie....please don't tell me that you're gone!!!

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 9:59 AM
Guest

damn!!!!

Dottie was an interesting lady

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 12:20 PM
Guest

Next trip plan ahead and follow her. You will het all the info you need. And yes she fucked someone else1

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 12:27 PM
Jon

So,it seems that she's pulled the wool over my eyes.  You guys, guest and Dottie please take your conversation elsewhere. I'm having a serious issue here and don't need that banter. Dottie you are hot but you are a whore. I've never called a woman a whore before but you have brought this upon yourself. You may have very low values and no morals but I pride myself on being a good human being.  My sex life with my wife is not wham bam, it's easily an hour or so every time we play. So it's not that.  But I need help, not the Penthouse Forum column here. 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 12:51 PM
Guest

i agree with you 100% jon. dottie needs to get lost she is a screwed up character. but speaking on character you have to check your wifes. For example my sister is married and her and her girlfriends do the same thing as your wife and her friends but my sister is the leader in the pack and all the women follow her so if she doesnt do it they wont. Who is your wife in the bunch is she the leader or the follower and will she do anything to please them and will she do whatever they do. If a man gets with her friend what will she do. A lot of women act like that because her friend acts like that. My wife has cut off a few of her friends because shes not out looking for a man. When my wife goes witht the girls its to GET AWAY FROM MEN and not to attract them but some of her friends are single so she could understand that if a man is infront of them then take the chance so my wife gave those women up. and i didnt make her do that it was her choice. So you have to gage your wifes character. you need to hope she doesnt have split personanlity. Shes a wife when shes with you and single when shes with her friends. good luck my friend

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 1:20 PM
ALF

I concur with COguest.  When in doubt, find out.  You could hire a PI, or you could make a little trip next year and bust her red-handed yourself.  The latter would actually work out better.  You could catch her flat out, or guage from her reaction to seeing you there.  If she acts squirrly, you know something is going on.  In the meantime, start monitoring all electronic communications and put GPS on your vehicles.  If she is meeting men on these trips, they may be coming into town in the off-season for hook ups.

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 3:46 PM
Rob

Install a VAR in her car. Its cheap and easy.  Be sure to velcro underneath her seat.  You will get plenty of intel.  Also install a key logger.  Right now your gut is screaming.  Always believe your gut.  Do not confront anymore or you will drive this underground.  Keep digging.  You will get your answer. 

 
Friday, September 2, 2016 7:18 PM
Lucasred

+1 on the Private Investigator. I would bet she is cheating.

I'm sorry you are in this spot but you didn't cause this. She did.

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 4:40 AM
Jon

Sounds like sound advice. Last night she was out on a girls night out and I was out myself. I knew where she was going and she knew where I was going.  All of the sudden she brings her girlfriends into the bar that I'm at and comes over to me like a very in love woman, she and her friends joined us as if we had all,planned a night out together. She acted like a good wife should, sat by me as we all talked, she flirted with me and I with her.  It was a great night. We had a few drinks, talked, laughed and it was awesome.  She had her hand on my leg the entire time, just letting me know that I'm hers and she's mine.  This whole night just took me by surprise. It gave me such hope. (When they showed up they were all dressed well but not slutty and it was about 8:30pm so it's not like they were done and wanted to just hang out with us.)

am I reading into her Florida trip too much?

Jon

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 5:42 AM
Guest

Women know how to show affection. I think you should sit her down and let her know how you feel about the Florida trips. Just tell her how much you love her and don't want to lose her and that you just need some things cleared up. Let her know the truth. Because if you keep thinking about it your gonna end up doing something stupid. Communication is always the key to the relationship 

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 6:16 AM
ALF

Your wife probably senses your suspicions from your asking about her trips.  That little visit to your bar was probably to throw you off the scent.  How many other times has she done that?  

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 6:34 AM
Guest

Yea good question alf. How often does she do that? It doesn't sound like it's often because you seemed shocked and surprised by it all. I think you should really tell her how you feel about what's going on. Tell her that you know there's more to those trips then just girls night. What are her friends like? Are they all married as well?

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 7:04 AM
Jon

Ok. Some sound advice. All the women are married. I know them all very well and to be honest they are all very good women.  I would never think that any of them would cheat on their husbands just as don't think mine would. 

To answer some earlier questions, my wife is very well educated and she is the "group leader" if there really is such a thing. By that I mean that she is the one who makes the contacts and initiates the girls getting together.  Our life together is really great. Many younger couples often say that they hope to have what we have as a married couple. My wife is a very affectionate gal and we have no issues with pda. 

Her trips are normally in the spring before the vacationers start their trek to the keys. For her to come to a bar that I'm at with the guys is not way out of the ordinary but during her girls night out its out of character. Some days when I head out and she wants to sit in, she will get bored maybe lonely then come and join me.  If I'm with my buddies and she is the only woman she is never made to feel like she's not really welcome.  My friends all like her, she's easy to like and she's easy on the eyes. I do notice my friends checking her out from time to time but heck, we are guys we do look. 

My real concerns are that she puts herself in an awkward position down in the keys.  I truly believe that the other girls would not put up with any other doing something so stupid but as many guys have learned, women do not always stay loyal even when their husbands feel that they would.  I'm a realist, my head isn't in the sand. 

One reply here suggests that I just sit down with her and talk about my concerns  I've tried, I really have and she does not get offended or mad, she just says I'm being silly.  Maybe I am, maybe I'm not.  I need her to acknowledge what she's doing is/can be district ivy to our relationship  actually it already is because I'm here now asking for guidance.  She may just love the attention and it makes her feel good but the damage its doing to me festering.  If she is doing this for just attention, what signal is she sending these guys?  Eventually the attention may not be enough and she may go further?  I believe flirting in and of itself is a "gateway" to an affair.  Accepting an offer to dance with another guy while away with girl friends may seem fine, it's just a dance.  But a dance turns into another dance, and another soon it's a slow dance, eyes meet, guy may pull the woman in, alcohol takes away inhibitions and then he goes in for a kiss.  I know when I dance with my wife be it at weddings or in a club we go to have fun.  We dance a lot.  Then a slow dance comes on and we do exact ally what I described and it's very hot.  I could imaging a woman who is used to this treatment to accept it from another  the excitement of another guy giving her the attention.  Do all women love the attention that other men give them? I know I would enjoy a woman wanting to flirt with me but I'd never flirt back.  I'd never buy a woman a drink for any reason. If asked to dance by a woman, and I have been, I simply tell them that I only dance with my wife.  Some think it's sweet some get bothered by my remark.

 I need to sit her down and explain my feelings   Here is a thought.  It's more for any women reading this blog, if I were to copy this and have her read it, do you think it would open her eyes or would she be very upset that I went on a public forum to voice my personal concerns? My name is not Jon, I'd be wrong to post real names for obvious reasons  let me know ladies  thanks, Jon 

 

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 8:03 AM
Guest

As a woman and a wife the one thing we thrive on is that our husbands trust us. It means the world to us and we sometimes use it to out advantage. My sister was a cheater and she used trust to get away with it. She said to me that once you get a man to trust you you can get away with whatever you want until she got caught. Now she's lonely and bitter. If you say your wife if the "leader" then maybe you have nothing to worry about because she is the one in control. I'm the leader in my pack. I'm the one the calls the girls together and they follow me. So I doubt she's cheating. I think she just likes spending time with her girls and doing girl things. I don't think you have much to worry about. My advice to you is to ask her to plan a trip to the keys just you and her and let her show you around and about just to know what she's into. As a wife I like when my husband is interested in what I like and what I'm doing. The only reason I don't involve him is because he's a man and I don't think he would be into what me and my girls are. If you love her and believe she's a good woman then trust her. Her than that the other guests are right communication. I would not shoe her this blog by the way. Your asking stRangers for advice. The advice you need is from people who know the two of you. Don't show her this blog you will look crazt

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 8:52 AM
Jon

"As A Woman And A Wife". Thank you for your words of wisdom. You REALLY put my mind to rest. It's funny what you say because we are planning a trip to the keys next month before fantasy fest...she actually is very excited to show me her fav spots.  I'm very relieved to her from a woman with credibility, values, morals and ethics. Sorry to learn about your friend who is a cheat. I'd really hate to lose faith in my wife.  She's given me two of the greatest gifts in my children.  I will sit her down and have a discussion.  Thank you so much. Jon. 

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 2:23 PM
ALF

Taking that trip is not a bad idea Jon.  You can do a little recon for the PI.  Then you can find out if those are really her "fav" spots.  Who suggested the trip?

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 8:12 PM
Jon

She actually initiated the idea of us both heading down.  She seems genuine with her excitement in showing me a good time. I'm skeptical but also excited at the same time. I think it's a good sign. We will see. 

 
Saturday, September 3, 2016 11:37 PM
Jimmy boy

   Just because  she loves you doesn't  mean she won't   cheat. Always question the obvious.   My wife was the same with me but my suspicion  was killing me. It was all I thougt about. I was obsessed.  So i made up stories  that i had to go on a business  trip. 2 weeks nothing. I watched and followed  her. I felt stupid and guilty. 5 days after returning  she went out with her friends and left her wallet. She was driving  and went to where she said she was going to be. Wasn't  there so i checked her location  via cellphone. Wierd  she was an hour away. At the same time her friends  husband  called  me because he couldn't  get  intouch with his wife. Apparently  she told him she was staying  in my place.  Now the drama start.

We met and drove to the location. The only thing there that was open was a holiday inn. I checked through my iphone her bank statements and saw the charges to her room. Im went in pretending  to forget my room number and the front desk  was very helpful. She took her drivers lic. and credit card but i had her state id and all the info i needed to get an extra key. We went up and unlocked the door. What do you think I saw. Nope not that jon. It was a lesbian orgy of 7 girls. One of the women was  another friends  wife and her sister inlaw. ( her husband sister). We went in with phones recording  and the surprise  those women had on thier face is pricless. They began crying some telling me not to tell thier husbands  my wife getting dress crying saying baby is not what you think. <---People really use this line when cought. We both calmly  walked out ( trust  me i was mad) and made phone calls to friends  who met us in a bar.  Long story  short Im divorced, my friend forgave his wife  and the other  friend landed in jail after beating his wife and sister the same night they got home. Yeah maybe i shouldn't  have told him.  Hes out now. Did 8 months got out and is doing better. His sister tries to talk to him but he won't  have it and the friend who  forgave his wife constantly  is checking her every move. As for me i met someone  and live together. We have a no privacy relationship. I see her phone she sees mine. We know  each others email  and dont go out anywhere unless we are together. No more girls night out. If thqts what she wants she can be single  and so can I. As for my ex she constantly  cries how  sorry she is and give her 1 more chance. NO! If she cheated with women im sure she also did with guys. Can i prove it No! But since a relationship  is built on trust and i have  none with her its over. I never even knew she liked  girls. Jon dont be naive. If your not 100% sure find out. Women do better in the conniving  dept.

 
Monday, September 5, 2016 12:01 AM
Guest

Jimmy boy, as a woman myself, I find it a bit harsh to put on edge all women, to out them all at the same level... Especially since men are statistically more likely to cheat, but thats not the point... I dont think its right for anyone to scrutinize another without a clear conviction... I have been married and been with my husband for 17 years and he means the world to me...Hurting his heart hurts mine, would never put my hubby through that kind of a situation... Woman are generally more patient and tolerant than men and are usually the ones that do everything to save a broken marriage.... Im not trying to say certain men dont but a lot dont. Through experience I know men are so much more prone to cheating than woman are, my dad has cheated on my mom, two of the three uncles I have had, my granpa has done it too, basically I was surrounded by immature cheats who use people for their benefits..., even though I honor them as family members I am furious and disgusted i hvent had a good solid example of what a loving husband should be like in my life... growing up through that experience, Ive taken a long time to completely come out of the hatred that I subconciously developed for guys categorizing all of them as horny cheats, even though I dated I secretly was disgusted by them but even I didnt know how bad it had gotten... I had extreme trust issues when guys were concerned... it took me a lot and a while but I gradually came out of that horrible prejudice toward all men, just cuz my childhood experiences with men was effed up.... it might seem strange to you but i began to slowly understand tht men really are capable of feelings  of real love compassion kindness as loyalty and that there good men as well as bad ones... i finally slowly got out of this notion that not all men are cheaters and that it was unfair to judge and always psychologically imprisoning another human being in that trap, i understood especially after I met my now husband.... Hes a wonderful man, he treats me with a lot of respect and love and always thinks of me when taking any kinda decisions... and I know he wont cheat on me.. 17 years he was with me even at the lowest point something no men in my childhood family would do for their wives if they were faced with the situations that ive gone through.... every person has temptations and chances to do wrong, not having temptations to act upon isnt what makes you the good individual, while having temptations the person to run the opposite direction is the one that has the right in heart.... men need to understand woman are humans too just as women need to understand men are human beings and all have the desire to be wanted respected and loved, loved exclusively by their spouses especially. People usually dont do things to hurt others especially their loved, close ones.. every man and woman will act as to the situations in life that made them who they are.... it rakes a lifetime to know a person and still you wont completely know them and why they do things... the bridge will only connect both ends when they are open with each other about almost everything in their life.... Real love will always conquer everything, people who dont understand the meaning of love is might say they love you, but in reality they will not love you enough to not cheat, which then i dont see how that is any sort of love at all... real love will make you turn the other way when you know what you might be about to do will hurt the person in question.... the heart of the other person will always be a priority in all things

 
Monday, September 5, 2016 6:58 AM
Guest

I am in similar position. My wife is a "good wife" and I trust her. I let girl only holiday. I consider possible she cheats on me, but I think that if she does it, she is reasonable.

 
Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:25 AM
Jon

Who is Jimmy Boy?

 
Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:14 PM
Guest 1

Tell her you and the other husband's would like to go on a trip by your selves say Las Vegas or some where and note her reaction...it will tell you a lot.

 
Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:38 AM
Lanah102

"As a woaman and a wife" can only speak for herself. Why is she on this site if she does not cheat?? Wha't's all that about?..See what i mean.

She can only speak for herself and not all women. Do you speak on behalf of all mankind?

I think it's safe to say she has been cheating, you know it but just dont want to accept it. Why have you come to this site if you truly have faith in her. I do get it, as an outsider we see matters as reality as to where a partner pushes back not wanting to believe the truth. 

Theres nothing wrong with sitting her down and talking about it. In a calm manner you can tell her you believe she has cheated and you can only hope she stops the lies and tells the truth. 

 
Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:55 PM
Collier

Jon, you are right!  There is no reason that married people need to be in a bar buying or accepting liquor or anything else from someone whose only objective is to have sex with them.  This "ladies night scam" that women have pulled on husbands has been the staple of the controlling wife's arsenal forever.  If ladies night were a trip to a museum, a really nice restaurant, the theater, or any venue where there is some appropriate entertainment, that would be cool.  But if your woman's idea of a good tim is putting on their sexiest outfit and drinking with men who care nothing about her, she is NOT a good candidate for a wife. All the while you stay at home a watch the kids like a good little slave.  Not me.  My wife goes out of town and spends time with her friends all of the time, but she doesn't frequent bars, and she doesn't accept gifts from other men.  I go out of town frequently and hang with friends, but I do not frequent bars, and I don't buy women drinks.

A girl's vacation is a great thing.  I encourage my wife to do things like that, but not if the main activity is drinking in bars with strange men.  This is not insecurity, it is the reasonable request of the man who offers no less in return.

 

 
Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:55 PM
Collier

Jon, you are right!  There is no reason that married people need to be in a bar buying or accepting liquor or anything else from someone whose only objective is to have sex with them.  This "ladies night scam" that women have pulled on husbands has been the staple of the controlling wife's arsenal forever.  If ladies night were a trip to a museum, a really nice restaurant, the theater, or any venue where there is some appropriate entertainment, that would be cool.  But if your woman's idea of a good tim is putting on their sexiest outfit and drinking with men who care nothing about her, she is NOT a good candidate for a wife. All the while you stay at home a watch the kids like a good little slave.  Not me.  My wife goes out of town and spends time with her friends all of the time, but she doesn't frequent bars, and she doesn't accept gifts from other men.  I go out of town frequently and hang with friends, but I do not frequent bars, and I don't buy women drinks.

A girl's vacation is a great thing.  I encourage my wife to do things like that, but not if the main activity is drinking in bars with strange men.  This is not insecurity, it is the reasonable request of the man who offers no less in return.

 

 
Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:49 AM
Guest

Be wary of your trip to the Keys.  My wife wanted me to see the town where she went to college.  We went there she showed me around and we had fun.  Later she decided to go to her reunion.  I couldn't go so she made it a girls trip and went with her college roommate.  The fact that I had been there with her actually made her more adventurous.  She went to see her boyfriend from college during the trip knowing that if she did the chances for having sex with him were very high...(she wanted to marry him back then).  Well she saw him fucked him and then came home like nothing had happened...I found out about her escapades a couple years later and it crushed me....It seems that having me there in her college town to see things made her more comfortale cheating...not sure about that logic but that is how it was.

 
Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:17 AM
Jon

So this is slowly blowing over.  Last night my wife springs a new event she wants with the same girls. One is having a birthday and my wife wants them all to go to a winery.  Sounds great bright? But here is the part that bothers me.  She wants no men involved and wants to stay at a hotel. Now the winery is only 20 minutes away.  I offered to "uber" for them. I said, "get the rooms you need, leave your cars there and I'll pick you up, take you to the winery where I'll drop you off for your dinner, wine tasting etc then call and I'll pick you up and drive you to the hotel" her reply was a very quick and snappy, "no" then she kind of caught herself and eased down to a "that's a nice gesture but we will figure it out". She made it pretty clear without saying it but she does not want me to know where they are staying. I offered to look up hotels in that area and she was very sternly saying that she has it under control.  I was merely trying to assist her.  This whole thing goes down this Saturday and I'm thinking about borrowing a car and following them.  My senses are going hay-wire. We have not slept together in a few weeks and that has me wondering too.  I do know the winery and its location as I've been there many times.  But for a birthday, shouldn't her husband be involved at least a little?  I'm puzzled by her secrecy and it's u settling to say the least.  I know the winery has tours, tasting, dinner and dancing.  It's a fun venue.  Perhaps due to past activities I'm being more curious than necessary.  I am looking for perspective. Let me know what you guys/gals think. 

 
Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:03 AM
Guest

Follow them. Here's your chance

 
Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:13 PM
Jon

I am planning on it. The tension in the air in my home is thick.  Man, something is definitely going on. She is acting really distant, no real eye contact, nervous actions, forgetting things.....I don't know for a fact what's on her mind but there is something. She has not come to bed with me the past 4-5 nights.  She is coming up about an hour later than usual. She's on her laptop.  I can hear her clicking. Her nails are real long. Right now she's on her cell, texting and reading with intensity.  I think tonight I'll wait til she is ready to go through bed and follow her up and just ask her what's up.  

 
Wednesday, September 14, 2016 2:15 PM
The_Female_Whisperer

Jon,

I don't trust your wife bro.  It is just a matter of time. I think she is just waiting for that right opportunity and I am telling you it's a matter of time until she stumbles into a high testostorone male and bang!!!   She will fuk him all night.

 

My advise to you would be to get into shape, exercise, eat healthy.  Most importantly take some herbal/natural supplements like Ashwagandha, Ginseng etc  to raise your testostorone levels in your blood.  Trust me man, I've never been married but its like it happened to me 3 times past, married women hit on me, or they were able to sense all that sperm in my sack.  YES, they have that biological ability to detect testostorone levels in men, it is quite fascinating how women's bodies are..   A bit vulnerable too I think..

Once you raise your testostorone levels, don't suck up to your wife.  Be assertive all the time, and try/act and be a leader and don't suck up to her. Women don't like that.

And finally if she gives you a chance, fuk her brains out in the bed as you are her husband.  But, continue to keep your testostorone levels normal-high range. 

 

 
Friday, September 16, 2016 3:12 AM
Guest

Tension is thick because she's trying to get you off her tail. You need to follow her and then follow up

 
Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:34 PM
Guest

Uhh dude I would have a problem with my girlfriend going to the club in my absence. Last time someone tried to get all up on her at a club, I nearly ended his shit.

With that said, your wife is cheating on you and well has cheated on you. I have been cheated on in the past over the years so I'd know well enough. An all girls vacation in Florida. You serious?? You actually let your wife do that? And she wants to do that without you. Letting a woman have freedom is one thing and letting a woman cheat on you is another. You're in that latter boat. Get out of that relationship ASAP. No proof needed.

Her actions are proof enough. Call me an idiot if you want, but it won't take you too many years at this rate to find out you got fucked over. Want to get fucked over or want to fuck her over? Pick one.

 
Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:40 PM
Guest

So what's the update

 
Monday, September 19, 2016 4:01 AM
Jon

Well her plans fell through. The others (women) couldn't make it for what ever the reason.  Things are still tense here and I'm having a real hard time living like this. We've had sex a few times but I can tell her heart isn't in it. A man knows his wife.  She just isn't herself. I ask and she just says, "I think I'm coming down with something" and kinda blows me off. She has received a few text messages from a buddy of mine and that's a little disturbing. In one text I nine he accidentally made it a group text between her and I, he wrote about making reservations and sent her a number to call to confirm. I'm not sure what that's about.  I really wanted to respond to him about this but I bit my tongue and waited to see if she replied and she didn't.  I finally confronted her about this and she was very evasive.  She asked me why I'm questioning her.  So I texted him about it and heard nothing back. He is a husband of one of her girl friends. My wife just left for work and I wanted to follow her as its about an hour earlier than usual.  But I need to get to work too. She offered no explain anion as to the text, I called the number and it's a place out by Hershey, Pa. A bed and breakfast.  I'm wondering if she had no plan to meet her girlfriends and was gonna meet him!  WTF?! I'm going to call him and ask him why he's sending this info to my wife.  Perhaps I should call his wife as well. 

 
Monday, September 19, 2016 4:47 AM
Guest

Yes. Now it's time to put your foot down. Tell your wife you want a divorce and why. See what she says. Tell her either she comes all the way forward or your taking a step back. Tell her no more girls nights until you guys figure this out. Contact the wife of the husband. Hell take them all out to dinner and see what the reaction is.

 
Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:14 AM
Guest

Have you confronted them yet?

 

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